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Ryoji Mochizuki | 望月 綾時 ([info]theappriser) wrote,
@ 2010-08-25 01:13:00

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Entry tags:internalizing problems, ryoji bein serious, sex what is sex

Human emotions.
Can someone give me...some relationship advice? I feel like I'm doing everything wrong. I wish...there was some way for me to understand humans better.

Here's the situation, for those who aren't already aware: Lon and I have never really had a normal or stable relationship but things became very complicated once he died again. I thought I would feel better about connecting with him now that he's no longer living anyhow, but I don't. He says he's being selfish and it's not my fault, but I feel like there is something I'm not giving him that would make him happy. I know he's been sort of...straying from me recently and I should be glad, but I'm...not exactly. [The situation with Jin suits me just fine, but the other two are questionable for various reasons.]

I know he and I are very different...that I'm very different from any human. But I want to understand so badly. I want to be able to show my affection somehow, to show my feelings in a way a human can understand. But without going too far...

Please give me your opinion. What should I do?

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[info]itipmyhat
2010-08-25 05:08 pm UTC (link)
Boy. This is a tough one.

Anyway, since you're my dear friend and he's my darling brother, I probably am not the one to ask. (Teacher, may I be excused from relationships class today?)

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-25 10:56 pm UTC (link)
O-Oh, Kimblee...you don't have to say anything! I feel kind of embarrassed for you to hear this stuff...

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[info]itipmyhat
2010-08-25 11:08 pm UTC (link)
Ha ha, sorry. I shouldn't have said anything.

To tell you the truth, I'm a little bit embarrassed to know this stuff, at least as far as Lon is concerned.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-25 11:16 pm UTC (link)
I'm not embarrassed because of your brother, I'm embarrassed because I don't want you to think I'm just a huge trainwreck. I'm embarrassed because of how I feel about you.

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[info]itipmyhat
2010-08-26 12:46 am UTC (link)
You know, it's that "don't want to think about your sweet little younger sibling having sex" thing.


I hope you don't feel too embarrassed. I feel for you, Ryoji. It's got to be difficult. I can't, because it's too difficult between my husband and my son, but I'd try and take the little bird back under my wing if I could. Maybe I'll have the time to go work on the house with him again soon.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-26 12:55 am UTC (link)
Ah, yeah...no, it's fine. I'll figure something out. I have to.

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[info]merines
2010-08-25 05:24 pm UTC (link)
Umm...well, could you just do some fun things with him? Hang out with Lon like he does with his other friends...?

[Shirley thinks this is awfully sad.]

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-25 10:58 pm UTC (link)
Hmm...I guess you're right. It's a bit difficult though, since it seems like whenever we're together, Lon wants to hang all over me. [Not that I dislike it- I just don't really get it.]

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[info]merines
2010-08-25 11:11 pm UTC (link)
Oh, so he's clingy, huh? Well, then you probably need to start out with something that will force him to use his hands. You know, so he'll take them off you. If you can really get him involved in something, he'll probably loosen his grip a bit.


Maybe someone other than you should say something to him about how clingy he is. He might be embarrassed and let up.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-25 11:19 pm UTC (link)
I think that's probably good advice. I don't want him to think I'm offended by it or anything, I just...also don't want him to think that I'm entirely comfortable with all of the touching and ...kissing. Maybe you could tell him for me. You won't be mean to him.

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[info]merines
2010-08-26 12:44 am UTC (link)
Since you'd like me to, I will tell him. I think I can make him understand. I'm kind of clingy myself, to tell you the truth.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-26 12:56 am UTC (link)
Well, then I'm sure he'll be able to relate to you. Thanks.

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[info]mr_h
2010-08-25 09:07 pm UTC (link)
That Lon...he's something of an unusual young man himself, isn't he? :/

I've been somewhat surprised that he's retained his memory so well through all the changes of form he's gone through here... (Ha ha, wouldn't we all like a fresh start sometimes?)

Anyway, I may have to plead a certain degree of ineptitude of my own with romantic relationships, but I agree with Shirley. Spend time together. Talk to him.

I'm under the impression he's a bit needy, actually. He'll probably just appreciate the attention.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-25 11:11 pm UTC (link)
Oh, yeah, I guess he is a little strange. For liking someone like me in the first place at least... He's had kind of a strange life.

Memory? Y-Yeah. Well, to tell the truth, I did play some part in that. Something like guiding the memories to the right place. I've done a lot of things I'm not supposed to do with Lon. I guess maybe I feel sort of guilty about that.

I do spend time with him and talk to him...but...I guess we just don't talk about the right things.

He is needy. And I'm not very good with it. I can't give him what he wants.

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[info]mr_h
2010-08-26 12:41 am UTC (link)
...So you did do something. I'd wondered. Don't worry, I'm not trying to be accusatory. I don't blame you. In your position, I probably would've done the same thing.

I wonder what you should talk about...

Part of the problem of Lon being- well, having been- human is that...he only understands human relationships, I think. It might be difficult for him to wrap his mind around or become used to a relationship without an particular trajectory. Most people who want a serious relationship are considering things like marriage, a family, growing old together... But that's not the world he's in. He needs a paradigm shift.

I hope you two can work things out. As it is, I feel...sad for the two of you.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-26 12:58 am UTC (link)
Yeah. Thank you. I appreciate it, even if I can't do anything and it's all my fault...

It made me so sad to go to his home...

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[info]mr_h
2010-08-26 01:13 am UTC (link)
You're welcome. I...I spent a lot of time thinking about these sort of things in the past myself.



...I can imagine. He's so young. Just a kid.

There are some others here like that too. I wish I could send them home to their moms and dads. ^^;

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-26 01:15 am UTC (link)
He knows that I really just want him to go home -- to rest in peace. But that I also am an advocate of free will and will let him make that decision on his own. The whole situation...is just really sad and solutionless.

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[info]redjuliet
2010-08-25 11:27 pm UTC (link)
It's pertinent to treat your girl guy like a queen king, Thanatos! You should know that with all the flirting you do! ...Hmph. All you are is a big player, huh? You don't know how to have a real relationship.

If he's needy, you need to fulfill his needs! That's how it works.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-25 11:41 pm UTC (link)
...[Ryoji smiles in a pained, awkward manner for a rather long moment.]

You think so...? But that being said, you should know why I can't get too close.

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[info]redjuliet
2010-08-26 01:01 am UTC (link)
No, but then again, I do whatever I want and don't really worry too much about the consequences. You only live once, I say. I want to enjoy myself, so what? If that means I'm breaking a couple of rules, so be it. Though it seems like I feel more human than you do.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-26 01:11 am UTC (link)
I think you must. I'm envious.

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[info]redjuliet
2010-08-26 01:24 am UTC (link)
Well, I can't blame you for being jealous of ME of all people, but the fact of the matter is that you're just the same. You just need to open up and let go of all of those preachy ideals of yours.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-26 01:43 am UTC (link)
I don't know about that. Thanks, though...for the advice.

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[info]crazydachi
2010-08-25 11:29 pm UTC (link)
You obviously don't know what you're doing. Just let him down gently. I'll be around for him, so you don't have to worry.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-25 11:43 pm UTC (link)
[Ryoji looks intensely at Adachi.] I may not know exactly how to fix our problems, but the last thing I'm going to do is hand him over to you. Whether I'm in a romantic relationship with him or not, I'm going to protect him.

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[info]crazydachi
2010-08-26 01:04 am UTC (link)
It's not a matter of handing him over. He doesn't belong to you. Anyway, you don't have to be so defensive of him. He's a grown man, and he can take care of himself and make his own decisions. Just because they're not always good doesn't mean he needs you stepping in all the time. You babying him like that isn't going to fix your problems; it's only going to make them worse.

I don't intend to hurt him. What do you mean when you say you're going to "protect him" anyway?

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-26 01:13 am UTC (link)
[....

I WILL CUT YOU BITCH.]

I'm going to make sure you don't hurt him. Even if you don't intend to, you still probably will at this rate. I'm not making any decisions for him. I'm just going to be a watchful eye...like always...and just in case.

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[info]crazydachi
2010-08-26 01:26 am UTC (link)
[TRY ME HO TRY ME]

Fine. Watch all you want. You're like some kind of stalker-pervert. Whatever. It doesn't bother me.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-26 01:43 am UTC (link)
[...Grr.]

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[info]1337haxor
2010-08-25 11:32 pm UTC (link)
You know already how you could fix things, right? How humans express affection. If you show him how much you appreciate him, things should get better. Just -- you know, actually enjoy it! Let go and enjoy yourself. You might not get it right now, but people are weak. They need a little validation. Anyway...if you don't think you can give him that, then why drag this on any longer? Make your decision and stick to it.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-26 12:30 am UTC (link)
Ah, you're right... I really wish I could enjoy it... I don't think I can though. I'm not sure there's anything I can do about that. He'd need to...accept me the way I am for it to work. I don't expect him to, though.

So, I guess maybe you're right...I just...

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[info]1337haxor
2010-08-26 01:05 am UTC (link)
He doesn't already accept you the way you are? You can't blame a guy for wanting a little affection.

If you can't do that, don't string him along.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-26 01:18 am UTC (link)
It's not that he doesn't accept me...more that he can't with the mental capabilities of a human. I don't think it's possible. [In the case of Minato-kun...he had a part of me inside of him. It's different.]

I don't mean to. I guess I'm being indecisive, but I'm trying my best. I'll come up with a decision soon. I promise.

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[info]1337haxor
2010-08-26 01:27 am UTC (link)
Alright. I believe you.

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[info]prophetizaya
2010-08-25 11:37 pm UTC (link)
Ryo-chan, you're asking for advice? What a surprise.

I do have to agree that you need to either cut him off entirely or do more of what he wants. I don't think there's really in between.

So, how about some advice in return? How do I go about making a relationship more exciting?

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-26 12:36 am UTC (link)
["Ryo-chan?" lol no NOOOO]

...That might be the case.

I guess you should do what suits you best. If it's not exciting enough for you, then it's not exciting enough for you. Not everyone is willing to put up with your constant antagonizing and getting back together. I doubt you'll find that again so easily.

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[info]prophetizaya
2010-08-26 01:10 am UTC (link)
[Yeah, you heard it right. A nickname. I'm looking for excitement, okay? And you're definitely antagonizing towards me, aren't you?]

I can force it sometimes, but you're right. It's hard to get something like that. That's why I can't keep myself away from Kim-tan for long.

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-26 01:21 am UTC (link)
[ lol no plz no]

Somehow I don't think you'd stay away from him even if you WERE happy with Shizuo...

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[info]prophetizaya
2010-08-26 01:41 am UTC (link)
What? No way! I'd be totally faithful if I wasn't so bored. What kind of guy do you take me for?

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[info]theappriser
2010-08-26 01:44 am UTC (link)
I DON'T KNOW! I DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED!

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[info]prophetizaya
2010-08-26 01:45 am UTC (link)
Yeah, well. I think you're already kinda involved even if you don't want to be.

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